Comments for Emre's Mozilla Messaging weblog http://sicakborek.wordpress.com My take on Mozilla technologies Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:21:01 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Better Faster IMAP in Thunderbird: Pseudo Offline Delete/Copy/Move by JohnJones http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/better-faster-imap-in-thunderbird-part-i/#comment-12 JohnJones Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:21:01 +0000 http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/?p=4#comment-12 that looks like a really neat solution to the failure problem well done ! regards John Jones http://www.johnjones.me.uk that looks like a really neat solution to the failure problem well done !

regards

John Jones
http://www.johnjones.me.uk

]]> Comment on About by sicakborek http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/about/#comment-7 sicakborek Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:49:11 +0000 #comment-7 Henrik, your are definitely right, these are UX areas of TB need improvement, and TB community is working on both of them. First item falls into improving IMAP experience category I guess, this is something I am working on with others. I haven't experienced such behavior, but haven't tested with +500 messages nor offline folder yet. Thanks for heads up. Second one is also work in progress. If you have any interest to contribute to these projects - or others, please let me know. TB has a great community, and new TB enthusiasts are always welcome. I am listing couple links that you can start reading to understand more about TB development: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Dev http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Backend_Hacking_Guide_For_Newbies irc://irc.mozilla.org#maildev Henrik, your are definitely right, these are UX areas of TB need improvement, and TB community is working on both of them. First item falls into improving IMAP experience category I guess, this is something I am working on with others. I haven’t experienced such behavior, but haven’t tested with +500 messages nor offline folder yet. Thanks for heads up. Second one is also work in progress. If you have any interest to contribute to these projects – or others, please let me know. TB has a great community, and new TB enthusiasts are always welcome.

I am listing couple links that you can start reading to understand more about TB development:

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Dev
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Backend_Hacking_Guide_For_Newbies
irc://irc.mozilla.org#maildev

]]> Comment on Better Faster IMAP in Thunderbird: Pseudo Offline Delete/Copy/Move by sicakborek http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/better-faster-imap-in-thunderbird-part-i/#comment-6 sicakborek Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:14:15 +0000 http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/?p=4#comment-6 John, you are right, it's very important and tricky. Our decision is to keep the operations close to UI events as much as possible, and changing the existing error notification mechanism to accommodate new requirements. Check out the mockups at http://clarkbw.net/designs/interactive-status-bar/interactive-status-bar-history%20(failure).png John, you are right, it’s very important and tricky. Our decision is to keep the operations close to UI events as much as possible, and changing the existing error notification mechanism to accommodate new requirements. Check out the mockups at http://clarkbw.net/designs/interactive-status-bar/interactive-status-bar-history%20(failure).png

]]> Comment on About by Henrik Bruun http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/about/#comment-5 Henrik Bruun Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:14:20 +0000 #comment-5 Emre, I've been looking around the Thunderbird messaging forums and now the new Mozilla Messaging site for someone knowledgeable on the technical side of Thunderbird & IMAP. I use Thunderbird every day all day... with several accounts all using IMAP and for the most part love it. There are however a couple of areas where I'm hoping you might be able to help and/or point me to a solution or tell me that it might be something you guys are working on. 1) Navigating to folders with large numbers of messages often cause TB to take a long time before displaying list/content (begins to slow down at around 500+ messages). Most painful folder is my 'Sent' folder because I go to that one often. 2) Message searches are very slow when doing full content searches. All folders are marked to be available offline and are compacted frequently. I'm a C/C++ programmer and have some familiarity with IMAP protocol, but know very little about the TB internals... any insight would be greatly appreciated. Regards Henrik Emre,

I’ve been looking around the Thunderbird messaging forums and now the new Mozilla Messaging site for someone knowledgeable on the technical side of Thunderbird & IMAP. I use Thunderbird every day all day… with several accounts all using IMAP and for the most part love it. There are however a couple of areas where I’m hoping you might be able to help and/or point me to a solution or tell me that it might be something you guys are working on. 1) Navigating to folders with large numbers of messages often cause TB to take a long time before displaying list/content (begins to slow down at around 500+ messages). Most painful folder is my ‘Sent’ folder because I go to that one often. 2) Message searches are very slow when doing full content searches. All folders are marked to be available offline and are compacted frequently. I’m a C/C++ programmer and have some familiarity with IMAP protocol, but know very little about the TB internals… any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Henrik

]]> Comment on Better Faster IMAP in Thunderbird: Pseudo Offline Delete/Copy/Move by JohnJones http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/better-faster-imap-in-thunderbird-part-i/#comment-4 JohnJones Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:15:47 +0000 http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/?p=4#comment-4 hey there this looks like really nice work ! I wonder a bit about the the feature to "Do UI operations in offline mode always" because the feedback about what operation might have failed will be inconsistent and people really care about this kind of thing... error's happen being able to figure out what happened and avoid it makes a difference ! good luck ! John Jones http://www.johnjones.me.uk hey there

this looks like really nice work !
I wonder a bit about the the feature to “Do UI operations in offline mode always” because the feedback about what operation might have failed will be inconsistent and people really care about this kind of thing… error’s happen being able to figure out what happened and avoid it makes a difference !

good luck !

John Jones

http://www.johnjones.me.uk

]]> Comment on Hello World! by Jason http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/hello-world/#comment-3 Jason Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:13:40 +0000 http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-3 This is great news Emre, for many reason. It’s a great opportunity for you to work on a monumental OSS project and help take the initiative to the next level. The project will defiantly benefit from you getting in to the code and pounding some bugs and overdue features into submission. Also it’s great to see an OSS project of this calibre come to Vancouver; big thanks to David Ascher for making the magic happen. This is great news Emre, for many reason. It’s a great opportunity for you to work on a monumental OSS project and help take the initiative to the next level. The project will defiantly benefit from you getting in to the code and pounding some bugs and overdue features into submission. Also it’s great to see an OSS project of this calibre come to Vancouver; big thanks to David Ascher for making the magic happen.

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